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	<title>Comments on: MSBike 2009 New Bern, NC Sept 12, 13</title>
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		<title>By: w4ft</title>
		<link>http://w4ft.com/public_service_support/public-service-archive/msbike-2009-new-bern-nc-sept-12-13/comment-page-2/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>w4ft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Hyman.  Actually, you could have. I created a waypoint for every turn cue, rest stop and RR crossing.  They were stored as favorites. You might want to go in and delete the 73 or so waypoints hiding in your GPS now. It was a lot of fun doing the event with everyone.
73, Cliff - W4FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Hyman.  Actually, you could have. I created a waypoint for every turn cue, rest stop and RR crossing.  They were stored as favorites. You might want to go in and delete the 73 or so waypoints hiding in your GPS now. It was a lot of fun doing the event with everyone.<br />
73, Cliff &#8211; W4FT</p>
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		<title>By: Hyman Denby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyman Denby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You downloaded the Sunday file on Sunday AM and other than having to remove my battery to reset my Zumo I enjoyed using the file and had little problem with it. It would have been nice to be able to &quot;search routes&quot; and have each RS listed but thats just a &quot;wouldn&#039;t be nice if&quot;. I know you put a lot of time in this and I thank hyou for sharing it with me. Thanx Hyman KI4ZXW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You downloaded the Sunday file on Sunday AM and other than having to remove my battery to reset my Zumo I enjoyed using the file and had little problem with it. It would have been nice to be able to &#8220;search routes&#8221; and have each RS listed but thats just a &#8220;wouldn&#8217;t be nice if&#8221;. I know you put a lot of time in this and I thank hyou for sharing it with me. Thanx Hyman KI4ZXW</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guys,

My garmin nuvi 265t doesnt support formal routes. The closest it has is a &quot;add as via point&quot; selection you can make. However, it does not allow you to store these in any way. Here is my solution to this minor speedbump:
1) name all of the waypoints for each of the points along a &quot;route&quot; with a sequential number in front
2) if i need to get back on the route, i will plot a course to the nearest waypoint on the route (might not be the very best, but common sense will prevail), and then either the next number up or down, so that i go in the right direction along the route. waypoints are going to be in different catagories to keep them separate
3) I am going to set all of the intersection waypoints to &quot;Red light alerts&quot;. I havent tested this bit yet, but im hoping this will be good enough to get me through, especially if i can name the alerts (then i can provide turn info, as long as i remember to reverse the direction when i go around the course backwards).

I believe this hacked together set of mess will get me almost to where i would be with real &quot;routes&quot;

See ya down there!

Austin
KI4ATB &quot;Haley&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys,</p>
<p>My garmin nuvi 265t doesnt support formal routes. The closest it has is a &#8220;add as via point&#8221; selection you can make. However, it does not allow you to store these in any way. Here is my solution to this minor speedbump:<br />
1) name all of the waypoints for each of the points along a &#8220;route&#8221; with a sequential number in front<br />
2) if i need to get back on the route, i will plot a course to the nearest waypoint on the route (might not be the very best, but common sense will prevail), and then either the next number up or down, so that i go in the right direction along the route. waypoints are going to be in different catagories to keep them separate<br />
3) I am going to set all of the intersection waypoints to &#8220;Red light alerts&#8221;. I havent tested this bit yet, but im hoping this will be good enough to get me through, especially if i can name the alerts (then i can provide turn info, as long as i remember to reverse the direction when i go around the course backwards).</p>
<p>I believe this hacked together set of mess will get me almost to where i would be with real &#8220;routes&#8221;</p>
<p>See ya down there!</p>
<p>Austin<br />
KI4ATB &#8220;Haley&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: w4ft</title>
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		<dc:creator>w4ft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, 
There&#039;s another issue that you probably haven&#039;t figured out yet. The 760 (and others) will only let you bring a maximum of 10 of the routes in at a time.  Import the Saturday routes first.  On Saturday night, deltet them and then import the Sunday routes.

If you have any problems over the weekend, find me.  I have the exact same model of GPS and can help you with it.  If necessary, I can help you reload the files.

73, 
Cliff W4FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />
There&#8217;s another issue that you probably haven&#8217;t figured out yet. The 760 (and others) will only let you bring a maximum of 10 of the routes in at a time.  Import the Saturday routes first.  On Saturday night, deltet them and then import the Sunday routes.</p>
<p>If you have any problems over the weekend, find me.  I have the exact same model of GPS and can help you with it.  If necessary, I can help you reload the files.</p>
<p>73,<br />
Cliff W4FT</p>
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		<title>By: N4VQT</title>
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		<dc:creator>N4VQT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff,

I sent a comment yesterday about problems I was having transferring the routes to my GPS using Garmin&#039;s MapSource program. I have now learned that after transferring the routes to the GPS, you have to import the routes on the device itself. Go figure. There was nothing abiout this step in MapSource documentation. 

The routes are in my device now and look great. Thanks again for all your efforts here.

73, 
Rick N4VQT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff,</p>
<p>I sent a comment yesterday about problems I was having transferring the routes to my GPS using Garmin&#8217;s MapSource program. I have now learned that after transferring the routes to the GPS, you have to import the routes on the device itself. Go figure. There was nothing abiout this step in MapSource documentation. </p>
<p>The routes are in my device now and look great. Thanks again for all your efforts here.</p>
<p>73,<br />
Rick N4VQT</p>
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		<title>By: Gary KN4AQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary KN4AQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Text file didn&#039;t work either. I looked at the text (and the code for the GPX file) compared to a simple file I generated in Street Atlas. Some similar lines, some different, and too much to compare manually, especially without knowing what was &quot;important&quot; and what wasn&#039;t.  I tried swapping the header from the SA file, but that didn&#039;t help. 

I haven&#039;t had time to try the babel-whatever site. Might look at that before proceeding manually.

Gary KN4AQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Text file didn&#8217;t work either. I looked at the text (and the code for the GPX file) compared to a simple file I generated in Street Atlas. Some similar lines, some different, and too much to compare manually, especially without knowing what was &#8220;important&#8221; and what wasn&#8217;t.  I tried swapping the header from the SA file, but that didn&#8217;t help. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had time to try the babel-whatever site. Might look at that before proceeding manually.</p>
<p>Gary KN4AQ</p>
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		<title>By: w4ft</title>
		<link>http://w4ft.com/public_service_support/public-service-archive/msbike-2009-new-bern-nc-sept-12-13/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>w4ft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Added a couple new formats today, no changes in the content though.  Still waiting to hear back from Gary, KN4AQ to see if the txt file worked. 

Gary, I still have DXF format and GDB ver.2 to try.
73, W4FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Added a couple new formats today, no changes in the content though.  Still waiting to hear back from Gary, KN4AQ to see if the txt file worked. </p>
<p>Gary, I still have DXF format and GDB ver.2 to try.<br />
73, W4FT</p>
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		<title>By: KN4AQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KN4AQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Street Atlas 2009 isn&#039;t reading the gpx files - at least not here. If I try loading it through the DRAW/IMPORT function, nothing happens at all.  If I importing through the ROUTE/FILE/IMPORT function, I get this error:

Unable to import the file.
One or more errors encountered while parsing the GPX file: C:\DeLorme Docs\Navigation\MSBike09.gpx

Do you have any other export options?  

Has anyone else loaded this into Street Atlas?

73,
Gary KN4AQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Street Atlas 2009 isn&#8217;t reading the gpx files &#8211; at least not here. If I try loading it through the DRAW/IMPORT function, nothing happens at all.  If I importing through the ROUTE/FILE/IMPORT function, I get this error:</p>
<p>Unable to import the file.<br />
One or more errors encountered while parsing the GPX file: C:\DeLorme Docs\Navigation\MSBike09.gpx</p>
<p>Do you have any other export options?  </p>
<p>Has anyone else loaded this into Street Atlas?</p>
<p>73,<br />
Gary KN4AQ</p>
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		<title>By: w4ft</title>
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		<dc:creator>w4ft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I had the wrong links to the master files earlier today.  That&#039;s been fixed.  Try to download and use one of the master files.  Things seem to work better if you can get everything in one file.  For the Garmin users, (at least the 7xx series) you should be able to load the master file and then import the 8 routes needed on each day.

Second, yes, there are loops in the longer routes.  Generally speaking, all the routes for a given day are included in the 100 mile route for that day. They also loop back to the same points in several cases, especially the 100 milers. The 50 and 30 mile routes cut off parts of the larger routes and may even add an extra leg to cut across and make a shorter loop.

Take some time and download the cue sheets and study the maps at the MS Bike link at the top of the page.  This is especially important for Sunday&#039;s routes.  They have probably twice as many splits and merges as Saturday.

Any more questions?  Anyone?  ;-)
73, W4FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I had the wrong links to the master files earlier today.  That&#8217;s been fixed.  Try to download and use one of the master files.  Things seem to work better if you can get everything in one file.  For the Garmin users, (at least the 7xx series) you should be able to load the master file and then import the 8 routes needed on each day.</p>
<p>Second, yes, there are loops in the longer routes.  Generally speaking, all the routes for a given day are included in the 100 mile route for that day. They also loop back to the same points in several cases, especially the 100 milers. The 50 and 30 mile routes cut off parts of the larger routes and may even add an extra leg to cut across and make a shorter loop.</p>
<p>Take some time and download the cue sheets and study the maps at the MS Bike link at the top of the page.  This is especially important for Sunday&#8217;s routes.  They have probably twice as many splits and merges as Saturday.</p>
<p>Any more questions?  Anyone?  <img src='http://w4ft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
73, W4FT</p>
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		<title>By: ka9qjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ka9qjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that last comment was regarding Saturday&#039;s 100 and 75 mile routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that last comment was regarding Saturday&#8217;s 100 and 75 mile routes.</p>
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